SimonB wrote: Blackwhite wrote:
Only just got a chance to respond Si, sorry. There will be some assumptions about what you meant, so no offense if I've got it arse-first
I'm afraid I'm also deeply sceptical about a number of those cases you refer to, and if I was being a real cunt I'd insist you proved they were real, and implied what you've been led to believe they did. There is a lot of "BRUSSELS WANTS TO BAN THE BANANA!" shite out there in these strange times
For each of those cases I could link to a Daily Mail story
As to the banana story no the EU didn't want to ban the banana but they did try and define the standard shape for bananas allowed to be imported into the EU!
This is what's commonly known as a Euromyth
, repeated ad infinitum by anti-Europeans no matter its veracity. I'd say that the Daily Mail wouldn't be the best place to get your EU info from, but I expect you would say that about the banana-myth-debunking explanations in The Independent
and on the BBC
. In which case, why not go straight to the horse itself and get it from said beast's mouth via the European Commisson website
, which states:
Bananas are classified according to quality and size for international trade. Individual governments and the industry have in the past had their own standards with the latter's, in particular, being very stringent. The European Commission was asked by national agriculture ministers and the industry to draft legislation in this area. Following extensive consultation with the industry, the proposed quality standards were adopted by national ministers in Council in 1994.
The diameter of the fruit is a way of measuring its maturity/development. Fruit grown organically or conventionally have to reach a certain degree of maturity in order to have a reasonable chance of satisfying the consumer. The minimum diameters laid down by standards are usually fixed at a level at which most fruit are of a satisfactory quality for consumption. This minimum stage of development does not depend on the method of production, but more on cultivation techniques diminishing the number of fruits on the tree to allow a better development of the remaining ones. That is why there is no specific requirement for organic produce. The contrary would mean organic farmers being allowed to sell smaller produce.
Cucumbers do not have to be straight. There are grading rules, which were called for by representatives from the industry to enable buyers in one country to know what quality and quantity they would get when purchasing a box, unseen, from another country. Nothing is banned under these rules: they simply help to inform traders of particular specifications. The EU Single Market rules are identical to pre-existing standards set down both by the UN/OECD and the UK.
The sad thing is you can find this being debunked as far back as 1994 in the New York Times
, of all places. And yet it lives on, the common-sense-defying outrage-manufacturing fact zombie of British euroscepticism.