Colin's clearout

[thechubbyone]

Are the club making a proper announcement on this or will it just be a gradual drip of information?

The big news of the day is that Sky sports are reporting Clayon has been transfer listed. Personally, I'd say this is a very poor decision, but what do I know?

So far we have....
Parker - gone
Vayrynen - gone
Webber - gone
O'Dea - gone
Robinson - not interested in keeping him
Bruce - contract not being renewed
Clayton - transfer listed
O'Brien - transfer listed
Connolly - transfer listed

[LSD&2Es]

Are the club making a proper announcement on this or will it just be a gradual drip of information?

The big news of the day is that Sky sports are reporting Clayon has been transfer listed. Personally, I'd say this is a very poor decision, but what do I know?

So far we have....
Parker - gone
Vayrynen - gone
Webber - gone
O'Dea - gone
Robinson - not interested in keeping him
Bruce - contract not being renewed
Clayton - apparently transfer listed

Clayton's a bit of a shocker isn't it (if true), especially with his recent statements on wanting to stay and be part of things. Suppose you can't play Clayton, Brown, Derry & Barton all in the middle though eh?

[Man Called Sun]

The big news of the day is that Sky sports are reporting Clayon has been transfer listed. Personally, I'd say this is a very poor decision, but what do I know?

Wha, what?

What?




What the fuck?

[gazurtoids]

On first glance, Clayton is a surprise, but he was only really great for a handful of games. I'm inclined to believe he was playing above himself / incapable of maintaining that level of effort for more than a few games.

I'd give it cautious approval, subject to M.Brown also being given the heave-ho and appropriate replacements being brought in.

[Ponte]

One year left on his deal, states just days ago that he wants to sign a new contract...
Kerching, sold because he asked for too much money?
Never ending storrryyyyyyyyyyy....

[thechubbyone]

One year left on his deal, states just days ago that he wants to sign a new contract...
Kerching, sold because he asked for too much money?
Never ending storrryyyyyyyyyyy....

Someone photoshop Ken and Warnock into this picture.

[AndyPaul]

On first glance, Clayton is a surprise, but he was only really great for a handful of games. I'm inclined to believe he was playing above himself / incapable of maintaining that level of effort for more than a few games.

I'd give it cautious approval, subject to M.Brown also being given the heave-ho and appropriate replacements being brought in.

I think everyone said the same about Johnson and Kilkenny last summer and we all know how that went. Deja Vu?

If he has been placed on the transfer list I can only presume its because he wont sign a contract. Clayton would at least be a good squad player at Leeds.

Very disappointing if true. He was the one player I thought we might be able to actually negotiate a contract with. Doesn't bode well for Snoddy then.

[jackos]

If Clayton has been transfer listed it might just mean he refused the contract we offered him, more likely it's Colin trying to balance his books though.

[gazurtoids]

Well, I didn't say the same about Johnson last summer, I said we should keep him.

I should clarify/modify my position: I just don't think Clayton is a major loss in the way that Gradel or Howson were. He was very good towards the beginning of the season and a bit more average later on. Opinions will differ as to which period can be taken as a reflection of his "true" ability.

If we're making comparisons, I think it's similar to the Schmeichel sale. He wasn't that great, certainly not irreplaceable, and so the transfer was a good move on the condition that the money brought in was used to buy someone better, which didn't happen.

[Mustafaster]

Mr Chairman was on about one of our current players wanting 15k a week. Seems we now know who it is.
Clayton had half a dozen good games all season, and a similar number of dogs, the rest of the time he was making up the numbers. He had a chance to step up and shine when LJW went, he didn't take it, in fact he looked a sight worse without him.
If he thinks he's worth 15k a week he's fuckin deluded, get rid.

[snoozedoggydog2]

O'Brien and Connoly transfer listed too

[AndyPaul]

Mr Chairman was on about one of our current players wanting 15k a week. Seems we now know who it is.
Clayton had half a dozen good games all season, and a similar number of dogs, the rest of the time he was making up the numbers. He had a chance to step up and shine when LJW went, he didn't take it, in fact he looked a sight worse without him.
If he thinks he's worth 15k a week he's fuckin deluded, get rid.

Very true, if that is the case, but that would mean there is an element of truth to what Bates says, which would be a refreshing change.

[thechubbyone]

If he thinks he's worth 15k a week he's fuckin deluded, get rid.

Surely that is where negotiation comes in? He asked for 15, we offer 7, eventually we meet in the middle somewhere?

[Mustafaster]

Mr Chairman was on about one of our current players wanting 15k a week. Seems we now know who it is.
Clayton had half a dozen good games all season, and a similar number of dogs, the rest of the time he was making up the numbers. He had a chance to step up and shine when LJW went, he didn't take it, in fact he looked a sight worse without him.
If he thinks he's worth 15k a week he's fuckin deluded, get rid.

Very true, if that is the case, but that would mean there is an element of truth to what Bates says, which would be a refreshing change.

Stopped clock tell correct time twice a day, grasshopper.

[Ponte]

If we're making comparisons, I think it's similar to the Schmeichel sale. He wasn't that great, certainly not irreplaceable, and so the transfer was a good move on the condition that the money brought in was used to buy someone better, which didn't happen.

and we ended up with the bargain buy of 'Andy Limp Wrist'

[Mustafaster]

If he thinks he's worth 15k a week he's fuckin deluded, get rid.

Surely that is where negotiation comes in? He asked for 15, we offer 7, eventually we meet in the middle somewhere?

Negotiate
Now THAT is definitely not in the LUFC style manual. Ya takes it or ya leaves it. Never apologise, never explain.

[gazurtoids]

O'Brien and Connoly transfer listed too

But, but, but... Lorimerers said they were right good and had just been treated badly by that nasty Simon Grayson! Does this mean they were shite, after all?

[the flying pig]

clayton IMO is a bit like LJW in that his game has some good points & some bad points but his importance to us is most starkly illustrated when you consider the possibilities that losing him would open up - basically giving a first tean shirt to a very green, might-not-ever-be-good enough kid or whatever old lag/fragment of footballing flotsam & jetsam who we happen to have secured the services of in any given week. gaz makes a similar pt re: schmeichel.

completley agree with gaz that, well, he's played so few games that it's really hard to say actually how good he is. somewhere between ok and really quite good. when i think back to [say] the upton park game or a couple of others, mostly earlier on in the season, given how few matches he'd played at that stage i'd have pencilled him in as easily a better player than LJW or BJ in the making. based on some of his more recent performances i'd pencil him down as lower division fodder for sure.

also agree with jackos - this is very likely a money issue. nothing against clayton but his bird's twitter & whatnot seems to suggest that [as well he might, i wouldn't say no to it myself] that he hankers quite strongly after the premiership 'lifestyle'.

[thechubbyone]

O'Brien and Connoly transfer listed too

But, but, but... Lorimerers said they were right good and had just been treated badly by that nasty Simon Grayson! Does this mean they were shite, after all?

I think Grayson permanently broke them. Like a gameboy that has been left out in the rain.

[gazurtoids]

eleven fucked off

Leeds United manager Neil Warnock has placed six players on the transfer list and has told five more their contracts won't be renewed.

The boss met with all his playing staff individually on Wednesday when he informed them of his decisions, and a total of 11 senior players could now be set to leave the club this summer as the manager looks to re-build for the new season.

Midfielder Adam Clayton, strikers Ramon Nunez and Billy Paynter, defenders Paul Connolly and Andy O'Brien, and goalkeeper Paul Rachubka are the contracted players who have been placed on the transfer list.

In addition, Alex Bruce, Lloyd Sam, Mikael Forsell, Danny Webber and Maik Taylor are the players who have been informed that their contracts will not be renewed and are free to leave the club this summer.

Of the players to be placed on the transfer list Clayton has been the most prolific this season with the midfielder having made 46 appearances, scoring six goals, including the Goal of the Season winner, against Leicester in November.

Connolly has figured 30 times this term, but Nunez and Paynter have found their appearances limited. Rachubka has made seven appearances, and has spent much of the season on loan, first at Tranmere then at Leyton Orient.
Connolly - Doncaster

O'Brien has made 38 appearances since joining the club, initially on loan in October 2010, but he has figured just six times this season.

Of the players not being offered new deals Bruce was the only one to start the final game of the season against Leicester City. Bruce, the longest serving of the out of contract players, has figured just seven times this term, and made 32 appearances during his two years with the club.

Webber, who joined on a short-term deal in February, and Forssell, who was signed until the end of the season last September, both came on as substitutes against Leicester.

Winger Sam, who was signed in the summer of 2010 and has made 39 appearances for the club, including just three starts this season, was loaned out to Notts County in March.

Goalkeeper Taylor, another short-term signing, was loaned to Millwall in March with a view to joining the London club on a longer-term basis.

In addition to the above players, Ben Parker and Mika Vayrynen had their contracts cancelled last month while loan man Darren O'Dea was told that the club would not be making his move permanent.