Only just got a chance to respond Si, sorry. There will be some assumptions about what you meant, so no offense if I've got it arse-first
SimonB wrote:Personally I think all of it should be repealed, in my opinion we already had enough rights protections under existing legislation and under common law.
Well, that's probably as good a place to start as any. You're right, we did. It was the European Human Rights declaration that folks like you want repealed because of what it means for our sovereignty/the kind of issues you mention.
The problem is, it's balls that this was forced on us by the EU. The Euro HR declaration was brought in after the war, for very obvious reasons, and is nothing to do with the EU. We signed up to it to prevent death camps etc.; we were willing signatories, and drafters.
The issue was, as our Magna Carta/common law approach wasn't enshrined in law, if the govt/filth wanted to fuck you they could; and your only recourse was to go to European court. This was expensive and really hard to do. In the end Nu Labour passed it into British law, not the EU.
We were just enshrining what we'd already signed up to. Difference was, you no longer had to spend thousands and take years going to Europe; it was in British law. The costs you speak of were higher before, I bet. Had to be: to mount a case in Europe vs. locally? Surely more time-consuming.
I'm afraid I'm also deeply sceptical about a number of those cases you refer to, and if I was being a real cunt I'd insist you proved they were real, and implied what you've been led to believe they did. There is a lot of "BRUSSELS WANTS TO BAN THE BANANA!" shite out there in these strange times
BTW the 100 charities for the crims claim is a bit suss too if you don't mind me saying. I could find you hundreds of charities devoted to caring for victims; to say it's only VS is also brass-coated balls. Perhaps you can link me to this wondrous plethora of criminally-minded charities: The Royal Society for the Prevention of Injury to Burglars, perhaps?
EDIT: not declaration, convention as Burnley hints. Check the reality here.
You know, I'm sick of following my dreams, man. I'm just going to ask where they're going and hook up with 'em later.